Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) W. George
Request for Comments: 6640 Time Warner Cable
Category: Informational June 2012
ISSN: 2070-1721
IETF Meeting Attendees' Frequently Asked (Travel) Questions
Abstract
This document attempts to provide a list of the frequently asked
questions (FAQs) posed by IETF meeting attendees regarding travel
logistics and local information. It is intended to assist those who
are willing to provide local information, so that if they wish to
pre-populate answers to some or all of these questions either in the
IETF wiki or a meeting-specific site, they have a reasonably complete
list of ideas to draw from. It is not meant as a list of required
information that the host or Secretariat needs to provide; it merely
serves as a guideline.
Status of This Memo
This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is
published for informational purposes.
This document is a product of the Internet Engineering Task Force
(IETF). It represents the consensus of the IETF community. It has
received public review and has been approved for publication by the
Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG). Not all documents
approved by the IESG are a candidate for any level of Internet
Standard; see Section 2 of RFC 5741.
Information about the current status of this document, any errata,
and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at
http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6640.
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Table of Contents
1. Introduction ....................................................3
2. Why is this document necessary? .................................3
3. Helpful Information .............................................5
3.1. Travel .....................................................5
3.1.1. Transit between the Airport or Train Station
and Primary Hotels ..................................5
3.1.1.1. Taxi Information ...........................6
3.1.1.2. Mass Transit ...............................6
3.1.2. Getting Around near the Conference Venue ............7
3.2. Regional/International Considerations ......................7
3.2.1. Health and Safety ...................................8
3.2.1.1. Water Availability .........................8
3.2.2. Money ...............................................9
3.3. Food .......................................................9
3.3.1. Restaurants ........................................10
3.3.2. Other Food Items ...................................10
3.4. Communications and Electronics ............................10
3.5. Weather ...................................................11
3.6. Fitness ...................................................11
3.7. Tourism and Souvenirs .....................................11
4. Acknowledgements ...............................................12
5. Security Considerations ........................................12
6. Informative References .........................................12
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1. Introduction
IETF attendees come from all over the world. The typical IETF
meeting has representatives from over 50 countries. It is quite
likely that a large portion of the participants in any given IETF are
newcomers to the specific location where it is being held or even to
the country or region itself. As a result, they are going to have
questions regarding their personal travel needs and logistics that
may only be answerable by someone who has been to the area before,
someone who lives there, and/or someone who speaks the local
language.
The IETF, the Secretariat, and any local host organizations
responsible for the logistics of making IETF meetings happen are not
travel agencies, but they often can and do assist with identifying
and hosting the common information that most attendees wish to have
while they are planning their trip. This document attempts to cover
the most commonly asked questions and categories for information.
This document is not intended to provide answers to these questions
for every possible location in which IETF meetings may be held.
Rather, it is intended to provide a set of FAQs for use by the hosts
and others who have experience with the area where the event is being
held, so that questions and answers can be handled efficiently,
rather than waiting until someone sends an email to the meeting
attendees mailing list in the days leading up to the meeting.
2. Why is this document necessary?
In reading this document, one may ask, "Isn't that why search engines
and travel sites exist?" Although we can sometimes find what we're
looking for with search engines, that results in hundreds of people
spending time searching, which is not very efficient. In addition,
despite the widely held belief that if it is published on the
Internet, it must be true, sometimes the information that is
available is either inaccurate, incomplete, or out of date, so it may
be less reliable than firsthand information from someone who has been
there. Also, no matter how much online translation has improved,
some of the most useful local travel sites may be difficult for non-
native speakers to navigate and find information, because navigation
buttons, graphics, and other active content are typically not
machine-translatable, and non-native speakers may not realize when
machine translation is inaccurate in a critical way. Lastly, while
the companies that serve as hosts for IETF meetings often have
participants attending IETF, the folks who are responsible for
handling the details of hosting an IETF may not be regular attendees.
Therefore, this document, especially Section 3, is intended to be
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something that can be provided to host event organizers that may not
have much familiarity with the IETF, so that they have a better sense
of the information that attendees will find helpful.
The format of this document was chosen so that it captures the FAQs,
but usually not their answers. This is because IETF RFCs are
typically static and infrequently updated, which does not make them a
particularly suitable format to contain location-specific
information. The questions found in this document are a result of
informal review of the attendees mailing lists from past meetings and
feedback from many individuals; they are believed to be reasonably
static from one meeting to the next. This document is not
necessarily all-inclusive, but it should serve as a reasonable
baseline such that a static format like an RFC is appropriate. It is
likely that this RFC will need to be revised periodically -- a clue
that this is necessary will be when, over the course of multiple
meetings, multiple additional questions that are not covered by this
document repeatedly surface on the attendees mailing list and thus
become FAQs.
The answers to this document's questions are expected to be stored in
a location that is easily updated by multiple parties, so that site-
specific information can be refined and updated as often as
necessary, thereby creating a living document. There are several
options as to where to store this location-specific living document.
For some past IETF meetings, the hosting organization or an
individual [HIROSHIMA] has set up a special website. The best recent
examples of these, in terms of the information provided, are
www.ietf75.se and ietf71.comcast.net. Unfortunately, these types of
sites are not maintained indefinitely once the IETF meeting for which
they were set up has concluded, so the only way to review them as
examples is to use the Internet Wayback Machine [WEBARCHIVE]. Such a
website has been a source of much additional information about the
location and is always quite helpful. If the host decides to set up
a site like this, the hope is that this document will provide
guidance as to the type of information with which to populate such a
site. However, it is by no means a requirement that the host set up
an external website. Further, not every IETF meeting has a local
host, or even a host at all. In these cases, the need for the same
set of information is not lessened, but the IETF will be more reliant
on the willingness of those with experience in the area where the
meeting will be held to share the benefit of that experience with
others. The IETF has provided a hosted wiki [WIKI] that can simply
be populated with the same sorts of information. This has the added
benefit of having a single location where additional information can
be provided by experienced travelers, locals, and host
representatives alike; it is therefore not completely reliant on the
host. In the case where the IETF-hosted wiki is to be used, this
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document may serve as a framework of categories that could be pre-
built when the site-specific page is set up, so that others can begin
populating the information.
3. Helpful Information
There are a number of general categories of information listed below.
Some sections, such as Sections 3.1 and 3.2, contain information
necessary for travel; the rest can be considered nice to have. All
of it comes from actual FAQs from the attendees mailing lists.
Much of the needed information may already be available in another
form online. There is no need to reproduce information that can be
found on external websites, so simply providing pointers to
information already available in other locations is quite
appropriate. However, it is very helpful if some validation and
vetting of the provided information is performed in order to avoid
outdated or inaccurate information. Additionally, because this is a
static and location-agnostic document, it's quite likely that some
questions are either irrelevant or confusing for some locations.
Therefore, "not really relevant here" and "we don't know" may be
valid answers to some of these questions. In those cases, it's
better to say this explicitly rather than to simply omit the section,
as this will confirm that the information was not simply omitted.
The main thing to remember when providing information in these
categories is that those traveling to the event have not been there
before, so one should not assume a high level of background knowledge
about the area, its customs, etc.
3.1. Travel
o Recommended airport(s) for domestic and international connections.
To avoid confusion, include the appropriate International Air
Transport Association (IATA) airport code(s) whenever possible.
o Non-flight options to get to the city where the meeting is being
held (e.g., if there are convenient rail travel options).
3.1.1. Transit between the Airport or Train Station and Primary Hotels
Information in this section is especially critical if the airport is
significantly distant from the venue or use of a taxi is otherwise
impractical or not recommended (e.g., if attendees must use a train
or long-distance bus to get to the venue from the airport). If train
travel options are provided as an alternative to flying, it is
recommended that the list below be provided for those options as well
(e.g., transit between the train station and primary hotel).
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o Estimated travel time. This is also important for return travel
from the venue to the airport. It is worth noting any
recommendations about leaving extra time if airport security and
check-in is always busy or if there will be significant
differences in travel time due to rush hour traffic.
o Shuttles (if applicable).
o Arranging transit directly with the hotel (if applicable). Hotels
sometimes provide car service or are willing to pay taxi bills
upon your arrival so that the charges can be added to the hotel
bill instead of requiring local currency. It is helpful to know
in advance if this is common or uncommon in the local area.
3.1.1.1. Taxi Information
o Credit cards accepted? Which ones?
o Foreign currency accepted?
o Estimated costs for taxis, as well as any rules/recommendations
about metered fares versus fixed-rate or pre-negotiated fares
o Description of "official" taxis if appropriate
o Links to websites or phone numbers for remote/pre-booking taxis
o How to find the taxi stand at the airport/train station
o Printable local-language address card to show taxi driver in case
of language barrier
o Ride sharing (the IETF wiki usually has a section where attendees
can post arrival times and work out taxi sharing)
3.1.1.2. Mass Transit
Navigating an unfamiliar mass transit system can be challenging.
Things that seem obvious to locals may not be obvious to visitors.
o English map
o How and where to purchase farecards/tokens
o How to use tickets/tokens (where to insert them, how to get them
stamped, how to transfer, etc.)
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o How trains/buses are labeled and how to identify the destination
of a particular train/bus
o The general frequency of service -- in particular, whether one
should just go to the station or consult a schedule first
o Which transit system to use for which destination (when there are
multiple transit systems in the area)
o Nearby stations and how to identify a station entrance (common
logo, color, etc.)
o It may be helpful to advise when things are not commonly labeled
in a western character set (e.g., place signs) and provide
pictures or unicode text representations of the signage as it will
appear.
3.1.2. Getting Around near the Conference Venue
The same information relevant for airport transit will likely be
relevant here, including taxi and mass transit information. If
possible, walking directions between the conference venue and the
hotel(s) should be provided if the venue is not co-located with the
hotel.
Additionally, it is helpful to note if having a vehicle available
(rental or personal car) is a help or a hindrance in getting around
in the local area. For example, it may not be recommended to try to
drive in the area near the conference venue due to:
o Parking availability and costs
o Congestion charges and other restrictions on when and where one
can drive
o Traffic
3.2. Regional/International Considerations
o Plug type/voltage. This can simply be a reference to
electricaloutlet.org [PLUGS] unless there are specific exceptions
or details that need to be highlighted.
o Visa requirements, pointers regarding travel documents. IETF
typically provides information about visas via a pointer to an
embassy or similar page that has general information about common
types of visas, when they are required, waived, etc. It also
includes information about how to obtain a letter of invitation
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should one be required. It is helpful to provide information that
goes beyond that, especially if there are known issues where it
may be difficult for entrants from certain countries to get a visa
processed in the time between when the meeting is announced and
when travel must commence. If there are expedite processes, this
is a good place to discuss them.
o Languages commonly spoken
o National/regional holidays, work stoppages/strikes, or other
issues that may impact travel or business hours during the week of
IETF
3.2.1. Health and Safety
o Phone numbers to access local emergency services (e.g., 911, 112,
999, etc.)
o Closest health clinic/hospital facilities
o Areas of high crime to avoid
o Common local scams, including taxi scams
o Hostile flora and fauna and how to identify/avoid
o Local air-quality considerations. Everyone has different
thresholds for "unhealthy" air quality, and those with health or
respiratory problems may need to be able to locate local air-
quality monitoring information to determine how to best prepare
themselves.
o Smoking rules
* Are most bars and restaurants smoking or non-smoking? Are
separate smoking sections available?
* Rules about smoking in public places
* Availability of dedicated smoking/non-smoking rooms in hotels
* Rules about smoking outdoors
3.2.1.1. Water Availability
o Is local tap water potable/drinkable? If not, is it truly unsafe
because of impurities or contamination or does it simply taste bad
by local standards?
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o How does one differentiate between tap water and bottled in a
restaurant when ordering?
o Are water fountains/bubblers or water bottle refill taps commonly
available in public places?
3.2.2. Money
o General credit card acceptance in common locations, including any
restrictions (e.g., requires a 'Chip and PIN' card, no American
Express, etc.)
o ATM locations near the venue and at the airport. Note whether
these accept foreign cards, which systems they participate in, and
whether they have an English language option.
o Tipping customs, particularly for taxis, restaurants, and hotel
staff
o Currency conversion rate -- a reference to a currency converter
site, e.g., Yahoo! [CURRENCY] will suffice unless there are
specific conversion details believed to be relevant
o In establishments where foreign currency is accepted either for
purchase or for exchange, note whether this is recommended or not
due to favorable or unfavorable exchange rates, etc.
o For what types of purchases (if any) bargaining/haggling on the
price is expected or customary, and if so, customary methods for
successful bargaining
3.3. Food
The nature of IETF's schedule means that food and drink provide both
a welcome break as well as a venue to continue discussions with
colleagues, either related to IETF work, other shop talk, or anything
*but* shop talk. During IETF's lunch break, approximately 1000
people are simultaneously looking for reasonably priced lunch
options, with time frames ranging from "grab and go" for a working
lunch to 75 minutes for a sit-down meal. When meetings have
concluded for the day, the wide variety of attendees means that
people are looking for all types of food, all price ranges, and
atmospheres ranging from a place suitable for an in-depth
conversation to a table at the bar. The more information that is
available about the food and drink options nearby, the better. This
information is especially helpful during the first few days of the
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conference, because the number of folks looking for assistance from
the hotel concierge or other information desk staff at one time tends
to overwhelm the personnel available.
3.3.1. Restaurants
It's generally helpful to note whether restaurants require/recommend
reservations, if they have busy/rush times that should be avoided or
planned for, etc.
It's helpful for restaurants to be categorized by:
o Price
o Proximity to venue (it's useful to highlight quick options for
lunch breaks)
o Type of cuisine (this is a great place to highlight local
specialties and favorites)
o Special dietary needs such as vegan, vegetarian, halal, and
kosher. It's also extremely helpful to discuss methods for
communicating these needs to restaurant staff when ordering. A
more in-depth discussion of dietary concerns can be found in
[HEALTHY-FOOD].
3.3.2. Other Food Items
o Local grocery/convenience stores -- for attendees who cannot find
restaurant options that meet their dietary needs
o Coffee shops and tea houses nearby -- specifically, where can we
find the best espresso or cup of tea?
o Bars and pubs nearby
o Restaurants or pubs with private rooms or large seating areas for
big groups
3.4. Communications and Electronics
o Places to purchase local SIMs and types of mobile voice/data
service supported, (e.g., Global System for Mobile Communications
(GSM), Long-Term Evolution (LTE), Universal Mobile
Telecommunications System (UMTS), CDMA, etc.)
o Places to get replacement electronics and accessories (e.g., power
cords, adapters, batteries, etc.)
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o Public Wi-Fi access (outside of hotel and venue) including Wi-Fi
availability in the recommended airports, mass transit, etc.
3.5. Weather
o Link to a site or brief information on temperature and humidity
norms for the time of year when the meeting will be held, e.g.,
Weather Underground [WEATHER]
o If this is an area known for extreme weather, note any amenities
to make travel easier, such as enclosed walkways or indoor
passages between buildings.
o This also refers to indoor weather: what is the common indoor
temperature?
3.6. Fitness
o Soccer: If the weather cooperates, it is common for some IETFers
to try to hold a "soccer BoF" -- a pick-up soccer game sometime
during the week of IETF. Thus, a field appropriate for soccer in
close proximity to the venue is useful information to have.
o Running/walking paths or routes. Some folks prefer this method
for exercise over using a treadmill.
3.7. Tourism and Souvenirs
While this is certainly not necessary information for the primary
goal of an IETF attendee, many attendees earmark a day or two on
either side of the conference for sightseeing, so this is an
opportunity to highlight local attractions. Links to sites
containing information about walking tours, local tourist attractions
and the like are certainly appreciated. If there are events
scheduled adjacent to IETF such as music or food festivals, cultural
events, etc., attendees are happy to hear about these events as well.
Additionally, many attendees choose to purchase souvenirs as gifts or
for personal use. In addition to the standard "tourist-trap" items
such as t-shirts and knick-knacks, many attendees look for items that
are locally crafted, local specialties, or otherwise significant to
the local area and culture. This is another topic that can be
highlighted in the information provided to attendees.
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4. Acknowledgements
Thanks to the following folks (and probably others the author has
unintentionally forgotten) for their valuable feedback: Dave Crocker,
Simon Perreault, Joe Touch, Lee Howard, Jonathan Lennox, Tony Hansen,
Vishnu Ram, Paul Kyzivat, Karen Seo, Randy Bush, Mary Barnes, John
Klensin, Brian Carpenter, Adrian Farrel, Stephen Farrell, Yaacov
Weingarten, L. David Baron, Samuel Weiler, SM, Ole Jacobsen, David
Black, Stewart Bryant, Benoit Claise, and Lawrence Conroy.
5. Security Considerations
This document is not a protocol specification and therefore contains
no protocol security considerations. However, some of the above
items refer to the physical security of IETF participants and their
property. This document is not intended to be a comprehensive
discussion of physical security matters for IETF attendees.
6. Informative References
[CURRENCY] Yahoo!, "Yahoo! Currency Converter",
<http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/>.
[HEALTHY-FOOD] Barnes, M., "Healthy Food and Special Dietary
Requirements for IETF meetings", Work in Progress,
March 2012.
[HIROSHIMA] Jacobsen, O., "A Visitor's Guide to Hiroshima", 2009,
<http://hiroshima-info.info>.
[PLUGS] electricaloutlet.org, "Worldwide Electrical Outlet
List", <http://electricaloutlet.org/>.
[WEATHER] "Weather Underground",
<http://www.wunderground.com/>.
[WEBARCHIVE] "Internet Archive: Wayback Machine",
<http://archive.org/web/web.php>.
[WIKI] IETF, "IETF Meeting Wiki", 2011,
<http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/
doku.php>.
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Author's Address
Wesley George
Time Warner Cable
13820 Sunrise Valley Drive
Herndon, VA 20171
USA
Phone: +1 703-561-2540
EMail: wesley.george@twcable.com
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